I was in Poland shortly after the Soviets were expelled. A few weeks earlier, Pope John Paul II performed an outdoor mass near attended by an estimated 2 million Poles, who chanted “We want God!” While I was in Warsaw and Krakow, I watched in amazement as people streamed to the churches, grateful to be able to attend mass without fear. You might want to ask yourself why the Church was the only adamant, effective opponent of communism before indulging yourself with this childish wise ass nonsense.
We’re all about indulging childish wise ass nonsense around here.
Dude, I’m pretty sure the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit — not to mention the Catholic Church — can take a little ribbing. Christians have been having a hard time wrapping their heads around the Trinity since at least the First Council of Nicea. So, y’know, lighten up.
Good advice. And I do apologize to true believers. My intent was to insert a little levity into a (complex) subject, not to belittle anyone’s belief. No, I’m NOT an atheist.
I’m a little touchy right now, having just deleted an outright commie from the FB account. I’m a political inactivist. I practice political inactivistism vigorously. But, I can’t tolerate the commies, and here in Woodstock, they’re hard to avoid.
The Trinity is a profound metaphor that reflects the appearance of consciousness in human history. As argued by Julian Jaynes, the bicameral mind evolved into the development of consciousness due to worldwide natural and societal disruption. Previously, man was motivated to action by visual and auditory hallucinations–that is, one half of the brain telling the other half what to do. The rise of consciousness introduced a third element into the cognitive process, which had to be accounted for in our understanding of ourselves.
I am in awe of the good things religion can do, when it does good things. Flip side true as well.
I have never warmed to doctrine, however, in any way, shape or form. I probably have a missing meme due to a missing gene–depraved onna counta I’m deprived.
For me at any rate, it is often doctrine’s goal to get acolytes to take as truth things that the mind simply rejects as such. That is part of its power.
No one understands the trinity.
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What Thursday said.
And:
http://www.ccel.org/creeds/athanasian.creed.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed
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IOW, one is to believe it, not to understand it. Can anyone understand God, period?
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I can’t even understand a quadratic equation.
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LOL! And that’s easy, by comparison. 🙂
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I was in Poland shortly after the Soviets were expelled. A few weeks earlier, Pope John Paul II performed an outdoor mass near attended by an estimated 2 million Poles, who chanted “We want God!” While I was in Warsaw and Krakow, I watched in amazement as people streamed to the churches, grateful to be able to attend mass without fear. You might want to ask yourself why the Church was the only adamant, effective opponent of communism before indulging yourself with this childish wise ass nonsense.
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Childish and wise-ass perhaps, but was any of it untrue?
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We’re all about indulging childish wise ass nonsense around here.
Dude, I’m pretty sure the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit — not to mention the Catholic Church — can take a little ribbing. Christians have been having a hard time wrapping their heads around the Trinity since at least the First Council of Nicea. So, y’know, lighten up.
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Good advice. And I do apologize to true believers. My intent was to insert a little levity into a (complex) subject, not to belittle anyone’s belief. No, I’m NOT an atheist.
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I wasn’t seeking an apology. In my inept way, I was suggesting that we have much bigger fish to fry, and ridicule, at this moment.
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And, yes, God can take a joke.
I’m a little touchy right now, having just deleted an outright commie from the FB account. I’m a political inactivist. I practice political inactivistism vigorously. But, I can’t tolerate the commies, and here in Woodstock, they’re hard to avoid.
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It’s all good, man. I’ve been known to be a wee bit touchy myself at times. LOL
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Yes, God (and Christians) can take a joke. Commies can’t. That tells you something right there.
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The Trinity is a profound metaphor that reflects the appearance of consciousness in human history. As argued by Julian Jaynes, the bicameral mind evolved into the development of consciousness due to worldwide natural and societal disruption. Previously, man was motivated to action by visual and auditory hallucinations–that is, one half of the brain telling the other half what to do. The rise of consciousness introduced a third element into the cognitive process, which had to be accounted for in our understanding of ourselves.
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I’ll bet that really gets those Baptist missionaries jacked up. No doubt those primitive tribespeople grooved to it, as well. 🙂
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I am in awe of the good things religion can do, when it does good things. Flip side true as well.
I have never warmed to doctrine, however, in any way, shape or form. I probably have a missing meme due to a missing gene–depraved onna counta I’m deprived.
For me at any rate, it is often doctrine’s goal to get acolytes to take as truth things that the mind simply rejects as such. That is part of its power.
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